PM: But you haven’t answered the question, Martin
MM: I was coming to that! The point is that we did not do this all simply to have a one-off show to protect 2020 revenues. Together with FILTR, who have been amazing, we have created something special, something that will only get better. It’s hugely cost-effective and time-effective and we know it’s got permanence. But we’re very open-minded about how it should sit both time-wise and positioning-wise with other industry events, Peter, including the one you have already mentioned.
Back to your original point, it is NOT our intention to kill off the TFWA show or any association show. Why would we do that? It would simply be bad business for one thing. We have a strong publishing presence at all those shows. Secondly, all the trade associations – including our close partners in Trinity, ACI and ACI Asia-Pacific – play critical roles in defending and advancing our industry. And their physical events help fund that work. We also work closely with various leading associations – with TFWA’s conference in Singapore and with their Handbook; with TFWA and MEADFA in the Middle East; with IAADFS and ASUTIL at their workshops in Orlando; with the FDFA in sponsoring their awards; with APTRA at Trinity last year in hosting a forum and at this year’s Virtual Travel Retail Expo.
We’re all hoping that these physical shows will return next year, but I suspect change will be required in the number of events and the formats and locations they embrace. We are heading into an austerity era, in which all investments by exhibitors and delegates will be closely scrutinised in terms of return.That’s precisely the way it should be.
We’re open to all ideas, including collaboration. It’s no time for silos and we don’t plan to sit in one. I speak regularly to the various trade associations and they all know that we’re flexible in our thinking about 2021.
PM: I fully agree on the number of events, formats and locations. But, returning to Virtual Expo, another area of seeming push back is the price of entry for brands to a wholly unproven media entity. It’s great to see the support and traction that you are getting, but what are the elements that will constitute the price tag?
MM: Not sure about the push back, Peter – that’s certainly not the message we’ve been receiving. The rates are highly accessible and we have beaten every target. We’ve got the world’s biggest brands on board in spirits; many of them in beauty and confectionery; some amazing omni-channel companies; and a brilliant combination of established and emergent brands across all categories. We’ve got Diamond Partners in China Duty Free Group and The SEVA Group and a host of Platinum, Gold and several other partners.
Every exhibitor gets complimentary advertising in the Expo Guide – when did that last happen? – and tremendous visibility from our media and that of our Preferred Media Partners across both B2B and B2C sectors. Every exhibitor gets their own individual account manager from FILTR to support them through the process from go to over a 4-5 month period. That’s built into the price. Every exhibitor gets their own individual media account manager from The Moodie Davitt Report, too, to ensure maximum visibility before and after the show – again built into the price.
PM: Everyone will be looking at this with a very close eye. Not just the technical execution, but the quality of the overall content, the take out of the ‘engagement’ and, of equal importance, the viewing data.
MM: Precisely. And that’s just as it should be. We are confident on all fronts. The Knowledge Hub is going to feature some simply outstanding content and our brand partners are promising some amazing work in the Exhibition Hub and Experience Hub. We don’t say ‘booth’, we say ‘Virtual Stand & Experience’. And that’s what it’s going to be.
Viewing data? Yep. Every exhibitor will have access to a full set of analytics, which details metrics on delegate interaction throughout the system, including touchpoint engagement, download history, dwell time as well as key lead details.
PM: Well, others are going the virtual route, too. ‘Copycat’ is a word that has been bandied about, most notably with what TRB have launched. Any neutral observer would look at some of their text and it seems to echo yours. It’s not terribly surprising because what other options do they and others have but to ‘adapt and survive’. This could be a meal ticket for them, too, and I have a certain sympathy with that. I am not sure whether being ahead of you may give them some advantage. But traction will be difficult, there’s only so much in the pot to be shared. Any comments you want to share?
MM: I don’t blame anyone for trying to survive in this crisis. The loss of the trade shows this year will have hurt their business badly, as it has ours. So they’re trying something. I’ve no problem with that. Like everyone, we have no divine right of ownership. I assume some cheap criticism in their literature, referring to ‘gimmicks’, extortionate costs’, and ‘computer game style virtual world’, is aimed at us, but it really couldn’t be wider of the mark. We are not in the business of extortion, and that’s not only an insult to me but to our brand partners’ intelligence and choice of investment!
On the timing of the Virtual Travel Retail Expo, we consulted with major industry stakeholders. There was unanimous feeling that an event later than our original dates of 7-11 September – avoiding important Chinese and Jewish holidays in September and early October and giving more time for the industry to get back on track – had significant merit. So we changed to a ‘live’ event of 12 – 16 October with a 30-day follow up access. We’re not focused on being chronologically first – although we pioneered this concept first. Instead, our relentless focus is on being the best and adding the most value. Same principles as our media and they’ve served us pretty well.
PM: OK. The Virtual Expos represent exceptional, entrepreneurial projects. But as you’ve covered, they number more than one. Two questions arise here. Are you morphing the company into a different organisation – effectively creating a full-on, new media enterprise that clearly steps outside the traditional parameters of trade media (as you are thought of now, even though you don’t like this). This is because the Virtual Expos are a direct move into consumer space, too. And, secondly, do you see the Virtual Expo route as a replacement for print publishing down the line or complementary?
MM: I am used to asking the tough questions, not answering them, Peter! You’re doing a very good job with TRunblocked.com in challenging the status quo and poking at a few sacred cows, so you know better than most the need for organisations and institutions to evolve. Disruptor (positive) or disruptee? I know which I’d rather be.
So, yes, I am morphing the company into a different organisation. In fact, we’ve created one – the Moodie Davitt Virtual Expo Company. Not only is it our first move outside travel retail but, as you note, many of its events will serve the consumer – not simply the trade. And that really excites me.
Our expos will complement not replace our publishing. I noticed you emphasised print. We see our future in both virtual and physical events – remember we expect to come roaring back in 2021 with the Trinity Forum, along with our great partners ACI and ACI Asia-Pacific, as well as our very successful FAB Conference & Awards – and digital publishing. Print? As we’ve told our partners, we’re not printing magazines during the crisis. Do you really want to open a magazine from a wrapper that been through goodness knows how many hands and has caused its own carbon footprint? We offer local print on demand services with no carbon footprint for those who like print. We’ll review the position once the crisis is over but we believe the future of publishing is largely digital.